Not long ago, Aminata Touré said loud and clear that “Macky Sall only understands confrontation”. But that was before the protests took the lives of 16 Senegalese. From now on, the former Prime Minister affirms that “nobody wanted the confrontation”. 

You said “Macky Sall knows only confrontation” in an outing before the events of last week. The demonstrations caused 16 deaths officially and it did not move. Should we continue on this logic when a dialogue has been initiated? 
Nobody wanted the confrontation, especially when in 2016, we thought that the reason that caused us all these problems was solved. It was the question of the 3rd mandate. It’s all about that. The trial of Ousmane Sonko, I was snatched from my mandate as a deputy, the young people imprisoned, the journalists that you are, persecuted… the only source is the 3rd mandate. We didn’t think it would come to this. Now let him reconfigure his dialogue and speak up. In all the countries of the world, when there are 16 dead in a demonstration, we wait for the voice of the President of the Republic. He must speak.

So far, imposing a logic of confrontation has not borne fruit. Only populations are the losers when counting their deaths. 
The People want to go about their business every day. But when you impose violence on him, there is nothing else but to react. What did we do in 2011? At some point, you have to face it. It’s time for him to come to his senses. Let him take the floor to say that we are going to review the trial, that he releases Ousmane Sonko and declares that he will not serve a 3rd term.

In March 2021, you were audible, but the speech is not the same as today. What has changed in the meantime? 
In 2021, I told him to speak to his youth. Resume the information. I had told him to speak to his youth. What has happened in the meantime is that the President of the Republic resolutely wants to go for a third term. Which is unacceptable. It won’t happen in this country.